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TheAafi

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Scheduled to end: 15:40, 23 February 2023 (UTC)

Hello all, I'm TheAafi. I offer my assistance in taking care of some admin-related functions on this project. I'm already an "eliminator" on Urdu Wikipedia, where I have the ability to delete/undelete pages, block/unblock users, and edit fully-protected pages as well. That said, I have been a VRT agent for over a considerable time and there have been issues where I am supposed to seek admin assistance and things that I could take care of instantly (if I were an admin) and that does not also happen because this project has not a "high-number" of "very-much-active" admins. I would be glad If I'm considered. I would offer my assistance in VRT dashboard, copyright violations reports that we get on VRT, speedy-deletions, stopping spam, and also some service to the area of DR's. Best and thanks, ... ─ The Aafī (^talk) 15:40, 16 February 2023 (UTC)

Votes

•  Support Looks good to me. No red flags. Thank you for volunteering - FitIndia ^{Talk ✉} 16:34, 16 February 2023 (UTC)
•  Oppose I've taken a look at Special:DeletedContributions/TheAafi, and I don't like what I see. There are F1 nominations without clear evidence, such as File:جامعہ الصالحات.jpg (note that the proof of the copyvio was found by the deleting admin, not the tagger) and File:Dr. Bhim S. Dahiya.jpg (generally we want to tag these as "no permission" to give the uploader a week to explain). They have also called images of likely non-notable people "advertising", but G10 distinctly does not apply ("content uploaded to promote goods and services"); instead, F10 can be used if applicable, or otherwise it would have to go to DR. -- King of ♥ ♦ ♣ ♠ 19:16, 16 February 2023 (UTC)

  @King of Hearts: I take some of the lessons. However, I remember I have called only these images as advertising which were used for such purposes on perhaps a different wiki such as en-wiki or ur-wiki. I take the note about F10, and also about explicit nominations for F1, including a link to where the file comes from. I'll surely improve in these things. Thanks, ─ The Aafī (^talk) 02:25, 17 February 2023 (UTC)

   Comment You demand perfection from the candidate, which is unsurpassed for most administrators I've dealt with 😂😂😂 Matlin (talk) 20:22, 19 February 2023 (UTC)

•  Oppose - Low edits, and indeed minimal participation in admin areas. A VRT member, let alone (prospective) admin, should not have this grave misunderstanding of copyright vesting and transfer, nor find this sort of provenance acceptable. Эlcobbola _talk 19:27, 16 February 2023 (UTC)

  2020 was a learning year for me. I have learned a lot from then. I also agree with you on File:Asir Adrawi.jpg. We make mistakes a learn from them. Best, ─ The Aafī (^talk) 01:58, 17 February 2023 (UTC)

  Empty platitudes ("We make mistakes a learn from them") are also not what I would like to see from an admin. My comments were and are to be taken as a whole; the entire premise of "Low edits, and indeed minimal participation in admin areas" was that you have not given us an adequate sample demonstrating that purported learning. Verily, if you've learned from 2020, why have you done nothing to address File:Aaqib Anjum Deoband 1.jpg, File:Aaqib Anjum Aafi.jpg, File:Deoband Workshop 2.jpg, etc. in the intervening years? Эlcobbola _talk 15:36, 17 February 2023 (UTC)

  @Elcobbola: Thanks for noticing these files. I really feel the need to have these files scrutinized and verified for permission through VRT. This is seriously a problem that I should have addressed much earlier and I missed this perhaps because I was not asked for it so far in these intervening years. I'd gladly mark these files with "no-permission" and ask the photographer of these images to send a release. ─ The Aafī (^talk) 16:14, 17 February 2023 (UTC)

  Talha has sent the permission release on ticket:2023021710011945 which other VRT agents may evaluate. ─ The Aafī (^talk) 16:50, 17 February 2023 (UTC)

•  Support per Fitindia. --Bedivere (talk) 21:21, 16 February 2023 (UTC)
•  Oppose low edit count on Commons, and Commons is different enough that this matters. Also I'm concerned over this GF edit to "tidy up" some vandalism. But I don't want obvious vandalism tidied, I want it reverted. When it gets passed over like this it just causes more nuisance further on, and really I want better and more experienced judgement from admins. Andy Dingley (talk) 23:05, 16 February 2023 (UTC)

  @Andy Dingley, I was removing the page from appearing in the Special:PageTranslation and then I got busy elsewhere before I could do that. I take the lesson and would definitely use this for improvement. ─ The Aafī (^talk) 02:02, 17 February 2023 (UTC)

• Thanks, this would probably be a support if you came back later with more edits. Andy Dingley (talk) 02:03, 17 February 2023 (UTC)

• I really would like to support this request, but I don't belive, that it is possible, to have enough experience on Commons with about 2.400 Edits in nearly 4 years, especially, when there's often enough shown a bad understanding of Copyright. So in the moment  Oppose, sorry. This expressly does not mean that with a little more experience and an even better understanding of the project rules and copyright, a choice would not be possible. The spoken languages alone would be an asset. -- Marcus Cyron (talk) 23:43, 16 February 2023 (UTC)
•  Oppose per Andy, I was originally going to morally support based on the very low edits, the issue surrounding the DR linked above and also having a pleasant experience with them at VRT .... however Andys comment has made me Oppose - Why in gods earth would you think this is ever acceptable?, "I wont revert the vandalism, I'll help them do a better job of it",

Anyway I don't think I'll ever understand the logic and thought process behind it and it's certainly not what I want to be seeing from any editor nevermind an RFA candidate. Unfortunate oppose. –Davey2010^Talk 11:37, 17 February 2023 (UTC)

@Davey2010, This image is from 2020 when I was in a learning phase, and I understand that I was wrong at that stage of time and had not enough knowledge about copyrights concerning such images, and a lot has improved since then. Concerning the diff indicated above, I have already mentioned that I was working at that time with Special:PageTranslation and a DR appeared there and in a hurry I removed it from translate extension and then got busy elsewhere without noticing there was too much vandalism there which @Andy Dingley fixed subsequently. I hope this makes some sense. ─ The Aafī (^talk) 11:48, 17 February 2023 (UTC)

Meh mistakes happen, I made a similar mistake over someones selfie and them claiming it was theirs so mistakes happen. With regards to the diff totally understand that too - Temporary fix something and come back to it later - Done those sorts of edits myself but had I seen this I still would've quickly removed it but now I know the circumstance around it I understand how and why, Thanks, –Davey2010^Talk 16:06, 17 February 2023 (UTC)

•  Support Only less than a week ago, TheAafi was really attentive and helpful towards my request for help here, a request that had passed in 2 other admins (?) hands before, as you can see from following the rabbit hole of links. Being technically experienced and attentive towards those that seek help is enough for me to support. Their VRT experience is a big plus. - Klein Muçi (talk) 11:50, 17 February 2023 (UTC)
•  Support, It's amazing to see TheAafi run for Adminship. I have following points to add to this discussion. 1: The DR linked above is from 2020 and a lot has changed from then onwards. 2: We all make mistakes and even sometimes admins make some errors while analysing anything, and it is good if they change their stance when being corrected. From their work on other projects and their courage to respond to questions, it is evident the user learns from mistakes. I won't hesitate to see them have this toolkit for the betterment of this project. 511KeV (talk) 17:20, 17 February 2023 (UTC)
•  Oppose Sorry, but the number of edits on Commons seems to be a bit low for adminship. --Robert Flogaus-Faust (talk) 14:03, 18 February 2023 (UTC)
•  Support I would like to see aafi as an admin in the future days because I found him to be more humble and friendly than most of the commons contributors. Commons needs administrators from all over the world to balance the cultural needs and I found only whenever I needed any solution depending on the cultural context of South Asia. I don't think his edit count would matter much because he recently made several valuable contributions to the commons, and I hope he would use his advanced right to keep the integrity of the project. --Wasiul Bahar (talk) 16:38, 18 February 2023 (UTC)
•  Neutral I really appreciate your work on Commons, but I have the feeling that this request comes a bit too early. --Ameisenigel (talk) 22:32, 18 February 2023 (UTC)
•  Oppose I agree with Ameisenigel, and edit count is also bit low. —MdsShakil (talk) 07:03, 19 February 2023 (UTC)
•  Oppose No need for another admin (maybe unless as a replacement?) Matlin (talk) 20:18, 19 February 2023 (UTC)
•  Support --Muzammil (talk) 01:55, 20 February 2023 (UTC).
•  Oppose per above. Concerns with judgement and limited experienced in admin-related areas. -FASTILY 04:52, 20 February 2023 (UTC)
•  Support I've had nothing but good experiences with The Aafī. Although the lack of experience in admin-related areas isn't great, but can be dealt with by them being an administrator. Otherwise I guess they could replay at a later date when they have gotten the proper number of of experience points or whatever, but we badly need active administrators right now. So whatever. I say just give The Aafī the privileges and let them get the experience that way. --Adamant1 (talk) 05:50, 20 February 2023 (UTC)
•  Oppose Dear theAafi, u have not enough contribution in commons. I saw ur statics in commons. More than activity of you is in Files name space and u do not enough activity in other name spaces and pages related to adminship. With regards:--Mehdi^Talk 08:52, 20 February 2023 (UTC)

  VRT has a lot to do with File namespace and that's why I have stated in my request that I would support with "admin-stuff" at the VRT dashboard/noticeboard etc. and also at undeletion requests that are relevant to the VRT. Having access to this toolkit, I can support more efficiently at VRT, and at the same time increase my work elsewhere. Best, ─ The Aafī (^talk) 09:12, 20 February 2023 (UTC)

•  Oppose per the misunderstanding of copyright basics shown above. Please note that being an admin is not necessary to be considered a worthy contributor, and cooperation on VRT can continue. Hekerui (talk) 11:00, 20 February 2023 (UTC)

  All of that is from 2020 and a lot has changed from since then, both in behavior and knowledge. Best, ─ The Aafī (^talk) 11:43, 20 February 2023 (UTC)

  You did not review your uploads until it was pointed out here. Hekerui (talk) 12:19, 21 February 2023 (UTC)

•  Support, a lot of active people are there in vrt and commons, but being a GLAM and outreach activist and a visual knowledge documentation volunteer, I never found anyone to be so gentle and helpful without even knowing me. Specially, he can understand the cultural needs of my geographic region which has a lot to do with commons' regular functions. Good faith and constructive mentality is heavier to me than mistakes from several years ago and low edit counts. Though his overall history is in the borderline for the rfa, my vote would go in favor of the request, as a benefit of doubt, for the positive effect he leaves when he guides someone to follow the formalities of commons. I believe that his humbleness, insights and cooperatives psychology would be more efficient for the project if he receives this advanced right--Mrb Rafi (talk) 13:27, 20 February 2023 (UTC)
•  Support, trusted, thanks for volunteering --J. Ansari Talk 17:29, 20 February 2023 (UTC)
•  Support, per Wasiul Bahar.--Owais Al Qarni (talk) 01:50, 21 February 2023 (UTC)
•  Support. Despite low edits count and other concerns raised above, I feel the experiences seems different. Language abilities and knowledge background he has, would be useful. We don't have Urdu speaking admin I guess? Commons is a multilingual project. Tulsi 24x7 03:43, 21 February 2023 (UTC)
•  Neutral. Neutral leaning oppose per Andy Dingley and some support viewpoint but mindful of the abilities candidate could bring to the table. Would be pleased to hope to move to support in a later RFA if some of the concerns expressed here have been addressed by subsequent contributions. I am voting neutral as I haven't got time to do full diligence on this borderline RFA and I don't want to go against a consensus to support. -- DeirgeDel ^t_a^c 12:02, 21 February 2023 (UTC)
•  Neutral I think he is engaged and wants to act efficiently and correctly. But I am not informed enough to understand the cons. --August Geyler (talk) 12:45, 21 February 2023 (UTC)
•  Support Have seen his works on commons and other wikimedia projects, very supportive in every task. Completely worthy ! Rockpeterson (talk) 15:12, 21 February 2023 (UTC)
•  Oppose I do not think that there is enough experience. Maybe in 6 month. --GPSLeo (talk) 18:54, 21 February 2023 (UTC)
•  Oppose Aafi is trusted and Commons needs more admins. But I think more experience is needed to become an admin. Good luck for next time. Yahya (talk) 23:45, 21 February 2023 (UTC)
•  SupportI fully support his candidature due to his continued support towards making Commons a better platform for the newbies. Ndahiro derrick (talk) 09:17, 22 February 2023 (UTC)
•  Support Aafi has been proven trustworthy and a very active user on every Wikimedia projects. I fully support his candidacy. Ifteebd10 (talk) 17:15, 22 February 2023 (UTC)
•  Support I believe that he will work well on Commons. His contribution so far has been good. It looks that he has good knowledge of copyrights and Commons policies. --Gazal world (talk) 17:57, 22 February 2023 (UTC)
•  Support Being a photographer who moved to Canada from South Asia, I can easily see how cultural differences might be important in wikimedia commons' administration tasks. Aafi's background demonstrates a deep grasp of the local and cultural context of his region, which is desperately needed in the pool of wikimedia commons administrators.--Fabian Roudra Baroi (talk) 18:24, 22 February 2023 (UTC)
•  Support – Mehediabedin (talk) 18:51, 22 February 2023 (UTC)

Comments

•  Comment It would be good to see babel info on your user page as this is a multilingual project? Thanks Herby ^{talk thyme} 16:35, 16 February 2023 (UTC)

  @Herbythyme, thanks for noticing that. I have added babel info on my userpage. ─ The Aafī (^talk) 16:39, 16 February 2023 (UTC)

•  Question Your edit count is quite low and you do not have patrol and revert rights. You write that you want "stopping spam". How much experience do you have with vandalism and spam removal? --GPSLeo (talk) 19:14, 16 February 2023 (UTC)

 Comment They have the image reviewer right which is redundant to patrol rights. Abzeronow (talk) 20:04, 16 February 2023 (UTC)

Hi @GPSLeo, I would like to offer my help in such at m::Wikiproject:Antispam where I have already been volunteering. ─ The Aafī (^talk) 02:15, 17 February 2023 (UTC)

Oh sorry, I forgot that patrol right is included in the license review rights. But you only patrolled 32 edits and your undid only 10 edits. That is to low to show your experience in this field. GPSLeo (talk) 06:20, 18 February 2023 (UTC)

Dear @GPSLeo: I'm glad that you noticed this. My most of the work here has been with VRT and I occasionally help with file-renaming and license-reviewing as well. I'd be happy to patrol more edits and undo edits wherever necessary. That's why I've inclined to supporting more at the VRT noticeboard and areas related to it in my request. If I'm promoted to an admin, I will surely take care of things that have been brought forward here. About stopping spam, I've been a part of the m:Wikiproject:Antispam and I have had a good experience there as an Urdu Wikipedia eliminator but I know this doesn't count here, I'd extend my support there as an Commons as well. Currently, there are three Commons admins who support there including @AFBorchert and @Minorax but the support that should be given there is not often given because these three people are elsewhere occupied more and might not get time to watch that wikiproject. Thanks a lot. ─ The Aafī (^talk) 07:38, 18 February 2023 (UTC)